Category talk:Wamoura
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Family Naming
With the coming of the new "wamoura" mobs, it seems the correct name of this family is "wamouracampa." Should we merge the 2 or keep them separated? --Jopasopa 18:12, 24 July 2006 (EDT)
Let's find out what TP abilities the moth like Wamoura have. They may be 2 varieties of the same species, like Lamia & Merrows or Slimes & Clots. If they have separate TP moves lists, then they should be 2 separate pages, but if they use all the same moves only with 1 or 2 different moves, then they should be on the same page --zoogelio-forgot-his-password 18:22, 24 July 2006 (EDT)
Okay. For now let's keep it named wamoura. If we merge the 2, the name will still be wamoura. If we split them, wamoura will be the name for the adults, while wamouracampa will be the name of the larva (AKA this page). --Jopasopa 19:43, 24 July 2006 (EDT)
Has it been decided whether to keep the Wamouracampa (Larva) and the Wamoura (Moths) pages seperate or together? At the moment 2 of the 3 Larva pages link to the Moth information page (under family, although they link to the correct page in catergory). I will correct the links for now and they can be altered when a decision has been made.--Perim 14:22, 16 August 2006 (EDT)
Adult Wamoura Aggresion
I was watching some manaburns fight wamoura (both larvae and adults). They aggro very strangely. I am thinking (I know how strange it sounds) that they are magic/ability aggro. First aggro: One of them aggro'd the manaburn. I was unable to tell of what since one of them used Elemental Seal around the same time others were casting, but it was a rather far aggro range. Second aggro: I was recasting sneak (I know the wamouracampa (larvae) aggro sound) when one attacked me (luckily they saved me). Now, for sneak you have to take it off, so it could have aggro'd because of that. However, the manaburn was resting (without sneak) and were closer to them, but yet it still attacked me. Third aggro (AKA Home Point): I was walking back to the main island so I can use the staging point to warp back. I was recasting Invisible (despite the lack of sight aggro near me), when a Wamoura aggro'd be and a Wamoura Prince linked and laid the final blow. Now, it is strange to assume if they are magic aggro, since as of now there are no known organic monsters that detect by sound (however, I haven't seen any Soulflayers in person yet; the only thing I've been told about them is that they are true sound). However, moths are attracted to light in real life, why can't a GIANT moth be attracted to magic in a fantasy world?
NOTE: I am only talking about the moth-like adult wamoura here. Also, unfortunately, due to the way manaburns function, I was unable to see any abilities from them, which would help us to know whether we merge them or separate them. --Jopasopa 13:00, 25 July 2006 (EDT)
From the list, they look to be 2 completely separate groups. They share no TP moves in common at all! I recommend this page be split into 2, with Wamouracampa getting its own page. --zoogelio-forgot-his-password 12:15, 29 July 2006 (EDT)
I've manaburned on the Wamoura and Womouracampa mobs quite extensively these last couple of days over at (C-7), which is on Vozold Island and is past the Dahaks. I like this camp because it has a plentiful amount of Wamoura Princes and it has 3 Wamoura all in the general vacinity. That said, I've had the opportunity to observe some of the Wamoura's behavior.
First off, these mobs do not aggro to magic. People I have manaburned with have tried to give the mobs a wide berth (we camp at the entrance to the tunnel that leads to the tunnel system going to Navukgo Excavation Chamber) and have never encountered a problem aggroing these mobs. I've done manaburns with both BRD (pulling with songs) and RDM (pulling with gravity) and the only time they have pulled aggro from a Wamoura is when they either get within aggro radius (which seems to be about the same distance as a bomb's magic-aggro radius) or when they link with another Wamoura or Wamouracampa mob. They do have True-Sight from what I've seen (I've spoken with many people who have encountered the mob), but they also seem to have True-Sound, as some people I've spoken too have said they ran behind a Wamoura (within aggro distance) and the mob has aggroed, even with sneak+invis on. The only reason why I don't list True-Sound as an aggro trait on the mob notes is because I haven't had the chance to personally test it (whereas I have tested the True-Sight aspect... albeit unwillingly).
I haven't had anyone mention job ability or weaponskill use either when talking about Wamaura aggro, so I can't comment on that either. But in regards to potential aggro while manaburning (the only times I have fought the mobs), they only aggro to sight (True-Sight) and linking with other Wamoura and Wamouracampa mobs. --Oberonqa 02:18, 30 July 2006 (EDT)
I never said 100% that they aggro to magic (but I did put that they aggro magic on the Wamoura page due to more reports of magic aggro). However, they do not aggro sight (like wamouracampa), they are neither true sight nor true sound. I even went up to one (I went under it, behind it, in front of it, to the side of it, and everywhere as close as possible) with ONLY sneak on and a TPburn saw me do it. And in case I got one of those "newborns" that do not aggro when they first spawn, I stayed there for several minutes. I have no idea where you are pulling this information out of. As for wamoura TP skills, yep, it seems like they do not share anything. I put those skills knowing I would get a response from Zoogelio. XD So, this is more of a treant to sapling relationship. --Jopasopa 10:00, 30 July 2006 (EDT)
Where am I getting my information from? I could ask you the same question. To answer the question, I'm getting my information from my own experiences with the mob in manaburn parties and from people in my LS's who have encountered the mob. Your the only person who says this thing isn't True-Sight. Why you continue to say it isn't True-Sight is beyond me. Maybe I should ask Ganiman or one of the admins to go walk past one of them with Sneak+Invis on and see what they get. I'm 100% sure they'll get aggro because I'm 100% sure the mob is True-Sight. I'm also 90% sure the mob is True-Sound.
And btw, your now contradicting yourself. In the reply above this, you state "However, they do not aggro sight (like wamouracampa)." But.... in your post right at the beginning of this category, you state "(I know the wamouracampa (larvae) aggro sound)"
So which is it Mr Scholar? First you say you know the wamouracampa aggro to sound and then you say they they aggro sight and not sound. Do you even know what your talking about anymore or are you just trying to be a psuedo-intellectual? --Oberonqa 12:10, 30 July 2006 (EDT)
XD What I meant by that is that they do not aggro sight like wamouracampa, as in they both do not aggro sight. Sorry if I used it in the wrong context. --Jopasopa 12:20, 30 July 2006 (EDT)
Ok I just got done conducting a test of the aggro conditions. Jopasopa is indeed correct in that the Wamoura do not have True Sight. I was able to sit down in front of them with nothing but sneak on and they didn't even look at me.
Trust me when I say I TRIED to repeat the aggro pattern I and others have noticed in the past... but after spending the last hour trying, I'm willing to concede the point.
Also, they DO aggro magic. The one and only time I was able to get aggro was when I cast Invisible on myself while standing behind the mob. So again, Jopasopa is correct.
I stand corrected on all counts. I must admit I am perplexed as to how it was able to see through sneak+invis in the past... but I'm not going to delve any deeper into the matter. It's someone else's headache now. Jopasopa, I apologize for any rudeness. Oh and thank you for the pics. I have pics of my own that I can furnish showing the same result. --Oberonqa 13:22, 30 July 2006 (EDT)
Mystery solved!
Okay, I now know why some people have reports of true sound and others not. Okay, first let me explain that there are 2 types of adult wamoura. First, there are the wamoura that pop from wamoura larvae that have been out for a certain period of time. Only certain larvae become adults. Secondly, there are the wamoura that pop like any old monster. The second kind are the ones I have been taking pictures and sitting next to. The first kind are indeed true sound. So, case solved.
Oh, the culprit? It was AbsolutDan who was using the Haunted Halvung Theme Park to breed wamoura that deleted the FFXIclopedia article on the Wikipedia.
AbsolutDan: I would've gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling linkshell and that radioactive green fox.
--Jopasopa 19:21, 17 August 2006 (EDT)
Wamoura abilities / traits confirmation
I'm confused about a few things. First is this: "When adult wamoura in Mount Zhayolm de-spawn, they are replaced by a normal Wamoura Prince. This is only true for wamoura that spawned from wamouracampa. Verification Needed"
I posted that original information before someone added the bit at the end. If you aggro one, Gravity it etc. and then run and zone, it will not be there when you get back (unless it's still asleep when you zone in - even then...). There will be a Wamoura Prince in its place. I have personally seen this several times. Are there Wamoura in Mt. Zhayolm that don't spawn from Princes or it that talking about Wamouracampa only?
Second, as I am sure a lot of Blue Mages (learning spell) and Black Mages (solo-ing) will tell you, this is incorrect: "Players in the vicinity of a wamoura will have their MP depleted at a steady rate." They have a TP move that drains MP, and it's a cone-wide attack - not single player. It can be tested by sleeping a Wamoura and standing by it - no MP drain.
I'm not sure whether to edit it or not, as it might get reverted to an older version... Aequis 14:21, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
There are at least 2 wamoura on Vozold Island that spawn normally and not from larvae (these might be the only 2 in the area that spawn that way). These are not true sound. Just remove the information about the MP drainage if that is false. (I tested this a long time ago, but I forgot if it was true or not, unfortunately.) --Joped 17:08, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
