Talk:Accession
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Does this work with Warp and Reraise? Can someone find out? (--Kiyu 12:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC))
Warp is black magic, so no. I believe it has been tested with raise and reraise and found that it does not work. --◄Chrisjander► t/ c 20:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
It does not work with Raise. But I do have a question since an ls mate is arguing with me. Is Accession Enspell really worth it because i see it as a waste of mp and a charge --Gojiso 23:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
That depends entirely on your situation and how much damage it ends up adding to your party over time. If people are hitting for 30 dmg and it adds 3 to each hit, that's a 10% damage boost for all melee. In turn, that means the fight is 10% shorter, you get 10% more exp over time, mages consume 10% less MP and therefore have 10% less downtime, etc. You can look at it a hundred different ways, but in the end, you just have to try it and see if it's a good deal for what you're currently fighting. --Karl1982 01:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I removed the listing of the spikes spells and warp from the list of spells that are unaffected by ascension. I did this because they are black magic and are therefore are automatically secluded. It is also clearly stated on the top of the page that it only works with white magic spells. -- Damonmensch 16:40, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
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Phalanx
I heard Enspell dmg and Phalanx dmg are depandent on your job's enhancing magic. So it would be useless on anything thats not a caster. But I read nothing in the WiKi about it and didn't test it myself... any comments on its stacking with Phalanx or how Enspells work on mages? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ophenix (talk • contribs).
It is based off the scholar's enhancing magic, not the person who recieved the effect. Also, Enspell seems to be very dependant on resistances, in order to use Enspellga effectively you must be aware of the elements the monster is weak too. BioShark 15:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Ignores Grimoire Bonuses?
I've been noticing for awhile but have been too lazy to say something, however, whenever I use Accession it seems the MP Cost, Recast time, and Casttime reductions from Light Arts, as well as the Loafers' Recast/casttime reductions, are ignored. I never paid it any mind until just now, as I hit 56 and have Stoneskin. When I use it with Accession, you can plainly see the recast is 60 seconds which is double the spell's regular recast without any of these reductions. The MP cost reductions being ignored is something I've noticed for a long time, too. I assume it is the same with Manifestation, as well. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article, or is there something I'm perhaps missing? Malumultimus 20:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
That's normal. Things like penury that half the mp cost aren't affected by grimoire bonuses. Shentok 22:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Bar-spells and Accession
The page suggests nothing. It merely states "Accession can be used in combination with the following spells to make them AoE" and follows with a list. It does not attempt, in any way, to tell you what to cast or what not to. It only tells you what is possible, and the required subjob(s) you need if the spell is not available to SCH. --◄Chrisjander► t/ c 00:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
En-spells
- As of the 2009-04-08 version update Accession no longer affects enspells.
Removed this from the main page since SE reported this as a malfunction - people dont add everything you see what does or does not work after an update....
Majora 14:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Accession on outside parties
The article states: 'When targeting a player character, only the related party members are affected.' This wasn't crystal clear (to me at least) that Scholars can use accession to cast, say, Tier-IV Cures and Buffs on parties they are not members of, even outside of Campaign (where I thoguht it was only possible.)
I spoke with a GM about it during our party, as our Scholar PL was casting Cure IV spells and Pro/Shell-IV on the entire party with Accession, despite not being a member. GM Sihrus of Sylph confirmed that 'accession is working properly.'
As I said...maybe the line in the article is clear you guys, but it wasn't to me. I didn't want someone going back later and thinking I exploted the Scholar's abilities when they weren't working right, so I called the GM to make sure, and found this information. I'm on full-screen, and can't screen-cap it, so youmay have to take my at my word...
As a White Mage, I'm jealous. (And a little miffed) --Vyenpakakapaka 02:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
