Talk:Beastmaster
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I don't think its necessary to place the "contrary to popular belief etc." under this main namespace, this comes across as a personal edit based on one's experience in a lack of party invites. Opinion shouldn't be placed on the main page it should be reserved for the talk section. Additionally this was at one time not "Popular belief" but "Popular Fact" it was via several patches that this became a dynamic shift to the current Beastmaster job. Milotheshort 18:46, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Job Overview
"A Beastmaster will perform best when partying in an area with charmable pets of a suitable level." Remove this line, it's not true. Not only will you have to release the pet after each fight to not hurt your own XP, but by doing so youre cutting down on your damage. Also you then have to find another pet to take the place of the one you just had. This is a negitive on the PT because they could be killing that mob for XP.
Jug Pets are stonger, and at lvl75 with merits and AF2 it helps even more so. Aside.. what good camp is there that has IT mobs to XP off of and EM and lower mobs to charm? EM may ever be a bit tricky if this is lower level were talking about, it may become uncharmed during battle and lose even more time/damage/mp to get it back, and what if the first charm fails? Thats even more of a problem.
Bottom line is that whats stated now is not true and if anything puts a bad name on BST saying theyre only good if the PT goes to an area with low level mobs. Seeing that this sentance comes directly after a sentance talking about PTn, it is assumed that this sentance is also referring to a BST in a PT. If it is meant to refer to a solo situation it needs to be wored better. --SephirothYuyX 08:52, 30 March 2007 (EDT)
I changed the sentence in question to include comments both about partying as a Beastmaster, and as soloing - with the part part mentioning Call Beast, and the soloing part mentioning the importance of camps. --Larahmie 11:31, 26 May 2007 (CDT)
Bst as a subjob
- Bst is a popular subjob for people who enjoy the Bst style of solo exp. It is in almost all ways as powerful as Bst main.
- Is NOT capped at a max of 37, like other subjobs. Your charm will be identicle to a Bst75, with the exception of Bst-only Charm Duration gear.
- Requires your main Bst lvl to be equal to, or higher than the job you are using /bst on.
Ex: You're Bst 30, and you are playing Whm40/Bst20 - your charm rate will be that of a lvl 30 Bst.
Ex 2: You're Bst60, and you are on Thf60/Bst30 - your charm rate will be that of a lvl 60 Bst.
- Please keep the above in mind when playing /bst. Works best when your Bst is 75.
- Popular jobs for /bst are Whm, Rdm, Pld, Blu, Nin, Dnc, Sch, Thf, Drk, and to a lesser extent, Sam, Smn, Rng, War and Blm.
- For further information on how to solo a specific job as /bst, please search many-a Bst forum for guides.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ayr (talk • contribs).
In regard to this, what if your BST main level is above that of your current main job? Will charming level be that of your BST, or be restricted to your main?
Ex: I'm SAM30/BST15 with a BST main lvl of 60. Will I be able to charm mobs 10 levels above my own like a lvl 60, or will I only be able to charm as a lvl 30 BST would?
--Aoisa 21:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- Your Charm would be that of about BST45. There's no testing to back this up (not that I've seen, at least), but a good formula to figure your Charm equivalence is: (Main Job + BST True LV) / 2 = Equivalent BST level
- So that in that case your Charm would be equivalent to (30 + 60) / 2 = 45. Your charm would be equivalent to a lv45 BST, but CHR still plays into effect as well. See this article. If you don't believe it, just test it with Gauge - Hiachi 10:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Leave
Should Leave be listed under Job Abilities, as it is now? As far as I know, it should only be under Pet Commands... not being BST35+ yet, I'm not comfortable removing it as I can't check my own ability list and see, but I can't imagine why it would be there. Someone with BST leveled mind checking on that? --Ejwood 15:39, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I believe your right. Leave is used as a Pet Command and i dont think its Job ability. I made the fix but if im wrong someone let me know or put it back. --Sorrydawgg 22:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
