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Some Page Formatting

I moved the "Acquiring Blue Magic" section to under the spell list as the Using Blue Magic section better fits the page layout and removes extra whitespace from the page (also changed the legend layout but I forgot to center it in the page like I intended). I left the link to "Blue Magic" where it was for now, but I recommend removing it as it is terribly out of date and incorrect with much of its information. This, or updating it severely to be as accurate as the information listed on the Blue Mage page itself. As mentioned below, I've tagged the "cannot learn a spell if you stun the move" statement as I've seen several of my spells learned even after fully stunning them with Head Butt and negating their use. Self-Destruct is the most obvious one to test this with. I left it as verify as opposed to removing it completely. Storme 16:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


Some Article Revisions?

Well, one major problem with this article is the "Acquiring Blue Magic" section. Most of what it says is either outdated or at least is the opposite of what "Acquiring Blue Magic" in the "Blue Magic" article says.

One example is in the Blue Mage Article, it says that you cannot learn a spell while a monster has been "Called for help". In the Blue Magic Article, it says you can learn a spell while a monster has been "Called for Help".

Now I would fix these problems but I do not know which is right and which is wrong so can anyone else fix these issues? Petco 05:45, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

New spells from March 10th Update

New BLU spells found by looking at the auto-translate blue magic list and comparing it to an alphabetized list of (current) BLU spells:

-- Lirmont 19:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Blue Mage Guide

This guide is sorely outdated. Someone needs to go in and fix it sometime soon. Reading through it and doing some minor updates to it leads me to believe that this guide was written shortly after the job came out and hasn't been updated since. I'd fully update it myself, but I've already written a similar guide and I know my updates would just be the same stuff repeated.
--Stammer 15:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Blue Mage AF+1 & Relic

from what ive seen of most af+1.... im worried that we are going to get stuck with spell learn chance + on the af+1 gloves.. anyone have ideas on how that might get handled on the gloves?

--Orivaan - Midgardsormr 05:37, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Many pieces of AFv1+1 have completely forsaken qualities their original piece had. Usually it's just resistances, but stats sometimes get stripped too.

That said, it's up to SE if the Magus Bazubands +1 will actually keep the boost or not, but chances are they will realize the general uselessness of having +Learn Rate on a level 74 piece of equipment.

...Though what they add to the gloves is really anyone's guess. It's virtually a blank slate. --Taeria 09:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Why would you list the mythic weapon under relic equipment and not list the relic weapon? Than make no sense what so ever. Olo 18:59, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Blue Mages don't get a relic weapon, so I guess they just listed the mythic weapon under "Relics" for the sake of doing it.--Stammer 20:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Colors in Spell Setup

I'm sure everyone has noticed those changing colors in the spell setup menu, when you get over like 10 spells or something. Anyone know what they mean? If this has already been answered somewhere, please point me to it, since I couldn't find it. --Elvaron 08:53, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Found the answer myself, it's just to make sure you don't forget that you will lose these spells under level restriction since the slots arent available then, and the different colors mark the different steps level-wise at which you lose them. --Elvaron 08:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


Title Image

Hey, I looked at the old BLU title image and thought it was pretty low quality and not fitting with the other job's title images, so I decided to create a new one. I changed it about a week ago, but forgot to put any mention of it on the discussion page until now. I used the same Hume model and everything. Let me know what you think. :) --Maerina 09:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Does look better. No complaints from me! lol --Stammer 18:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Watch page is glitching?

Sorry, but it seems Watching Blue Mage article now links to the talk page, minor inconvenience, but irritating nonetheless. How can I fix it? It seems to be working properly now, disregard.

Possible edit...

Today I was fighting Goblins in Buburimu on BLU Lv20, one of the first goblins I fought used Bomb Toss but I didn't know I could learn it at the time so I killed it WHILE it was loading Bomb Toss. I still learned Bomb Toss though, so the part about the ability needing to completely load and fire may be wrong since I killed it before the fire step. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The real Sirkenneth (talkcontribs).

More likely there was simply lag involved. --Volkai 13:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I'd like to point out that you can learn Blue Magic even if you stun the spells with Head Butt. This is how I learned Self-Destruct. I've never really paid the detail much mind until Sirkenneth mentioned it. Storme 15:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Outside link

Curious why the


was removed, quite possibly the best guide that has been listed here, is wiki just really against linking outside sources? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragearo (talkcontribs).

- (I would speculate someone removed it from the article page because it is not a link to a Wiki page. But that is just a guess, and I still don't know why that would matter. Other articles have links on the front page that do not lead to wiki pages, i.e. youtube and allakhazam.) -

Regaurding learning a spell with out seeing it from the defeated monster

During a long spell shopping spree with a friend , we were not learning a spell , pollen to be exact . In a fit of frustration i called a GM . The first question he asked me was HOW MANY MEMBERS of that monster family had i killed in total . Not HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SEEN THE SPELL USED . We learned the spell shortly after . Last night while shopping again , My friend learned a spell , Uppercut , from a Mob that didnt even use the spell . But it had been used on him previously . I added the edit noting the possiblity that the number of monsters from that family may be a determining factor in learning a spell as long as it has been used on you . more testing is obviously needed, but considering what the GM asked and what has been witnessed first hand i feel it is a legit edit .--MIKUMARU 14:45, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Spell Table Columns

While I wouldn't call it an edit war of any sort, the spell tables get periodically revised without any seeming provocation. I suspect this is because while most editors are of one mind in their desire to minimize wasted white space (like that caused by columns of differing height), each editor may be using a different default text size and screen resolution.
With this in mind, before altering the spell tables, please consider your text size and screen resolution, and consider that the way the columns are set as of this writing each column (save one due to an odd number of spells) is of even height when the screen and text is set such that all spell names take only one line of text, not two.
--Volkai 13:15, 18 August 2009 (UTC)