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i believe there is another tier of HQ. 3 carbonara can be synthed at once. it does not just skip from 2-4. -Cleric-yokiko 19:50, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

Store TP number seems to be wrong

I did a little testing with Carbonara and I found that the Store TP is indeed +6.


First of all, I started with a quick test to see if the Store TP formula on the Wiki page was correct.


Level 74 Samurai (should have a Store TP trait of 25) using a 450 delay Great Katana, and Store TP +15 gear. Total Store TP should be +45.


11.5 * 1.45 = 16.675 (only the first decimal is used though)

16.6 * 6 = 99.6

16.675 * 6 = 100.050


6 hits saw me at 99% TP. So far, numbers seem OK.


Adding Chivalrous Chain for Store TP +1 to the setup, for a total of +46.


11.5 * 1.46 = 16.790

16.7 * 6 = 100.2


And indeed, 6 hits gave me 100% TP indeed.


Now the fun part, to the Store TP +45 setup, I added the Carbonara, which according to this article (and a few others) is Store TP +4. Total should be +49.


11.5 * 1.49 = 17.135

17.1 * 6 = 102.6


6 mobs later (and 6 hits), my TP was 103%. That doesn't fit the numbers. So let's run them again for +5.


11.5 * 1.50 = 17.25

17.2 * 6 = 103.2


That matches my 103% TP, but let's run the numbers again for +6 on the Carbonara:


11.5 * 1.51 = 17.365

17.3 * 6 = 103.8


So it could be either. Let's add another hit to the mix.

11.5 * 1.50 = 17.25

17.2 * 6 = 103.2

17.2 * 7 = 120.4


11.5 * 1.51 = 17.365

17.3 * 6 = 103.8

17.3 * 7 = 121.1


And one more mob/hit got me to 121% TP. So +6 it is.


However, it just _might_ be that way for Samurai main or sub only. Going to check with my Black Mage next.

Store TP number seems to be wrong pt.2

BLM/THF with a Diabolos Pole. TP per hit on the pole should be 10.3. 10 hits without any food or Store TP gear saw me at 103% TP, so that's correct.


First off, let's calculate 10 hit TP for various Store TP numbers:


+3: 10.3 * 1.03 = 10.609 > 10.6 * 10 = 106

+4: 10.3 * 1.04 = 10.712 > 10.7 * 10 = 107

+5: 10.3 * 1.05 = 10.815 > 10.8 * 10 = 108

+6: 10.3 * 1.06 = 10.918 > 10.9 * 10 = 109

+7: 10.3 * 1.07 = 11.021 > 11.0 * 10 = 110


1 Carbonara & 10 hits later, I had 109% TP, so that's Store TP +6, right there. Updating the article.


Store TP Confirmation

There's a much easier way of confirming Store TP - just use an icarus wing. Was redoing Maat on DRK, with Chiv Chain, Rajas Ring and Brutal Earring on, for total gear store tp of +7, and popped Carbonara then ic wing. Total TP given was 113% confirming +6 from food.