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Talk:Dirtyhanded Gochakzuk

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That's weird. MediaWiki does create a smaller version of the image file to be used as a thumbnail to save on bandwidth. However, I've noticed their image scaling isn't excactly the highest quality. Never seen it mess up like this before, though. --Enfield 10:33, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

See :: Image talk:Dirtyhanded Gichazuk.jpg Thank you!! --Nynaeve 10:35, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

This NM is almost certainly True Sight/Sound. We tried going in with Sneak/Invisible to do a clean pet pull, but the NM detected our puller every time. --Tinuvael 20:29, 27 February 2007 (EST)

Silence

This NM is highly resistant, but NOT immune to silence as the page states. On an attempt today, duoing pup/war and whm/blm, the puppet successfully landed Silence once. It didn't last long, but it landed. Changing the page to note this. --Psepha 14:37, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Silence landed from me as a rdm without a bunch of extra enfeebling skill. Didn't seem to be overly resistant, but it didnt last a really long time. (neither did the nm) Drjohn 02:44, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

RDM 75/WHM 37. Enfeebling skill 297. No enhancements to enfeebling or magic accuracy. Silence landed 1 out of 5 times (20%). --Zylo 18:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

After a surprise-aggro, wasn't exactly prepared for the fight and thus, failed my first try against this one as 75RDM/37BLM. My plan was to keep it paralyzed and spam silence.
Paralyze seemed to work rather well, but silence was resisted each time though my Enfeebling skill was only at 300... Gotta say, the 3 other orcs really were not helping though I had Sleepga to offer to them heh. With all that, I did get it half-way to death, which more or less surprised me. Oh well, gonna try again soon'ish! And I shall prevail.
Sore wa sore, kore wa kore... 20:54, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Sleep

This NM is not immune to Sleep as the page states. On an attempt today, as a level 74 RDM/BLM I landed Sleep II, thankfully interrupting his Sleepga. Have updated. --Haldarn 21:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I managed to sleep it as well, with around 300 Enfeebling skill, on a non-darksday...however, with 310 Enfeebling skill, darksday, INT around 100~ I had no luck, not a single time. Was more like a test on that, than a serious attempt to kill it. It resisted every time and I went down pretty fast heh. Oh well, back to the drawing-board. Sore wa sore, kore wa kore... 19:41, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Testimonials

  • Soloed as 75 RDM/DRK.
The Pull
  • Running through the two doors is the only way to pull this NM solo. I tried the Diaga technique many times but he never ran far enough for me to zone back in and claim it.
  • I recommend you keep Aquaveil up so you can recast Stoneskin while waiting for the elevator to land.
  • Don't waste your time putting up the appropriate Barspell. With 138 resist I took 800 damage from a Tier three -aga.
  • Once you zone into Monastic Cavern you must zone back immediately without casting any spells. This is because you don't want other Orcs to respawn and link and he returns to his house very fast.
  • I fought Dirtyhanded on the bridge to the right of the zone. No matter what you will get some links unless someone is killing Orcs around there.
The Fight
  • Eat defense food. I ate a Tavnazian Taco which helped significantly (he hit me for 50-70 without it).
  • Keep Slow/Paralyze and Blind up. Paralyze proc'd a good amount of times and even stopped a few big spells. Slow and Blind made his staff damage manageable.
  • Make sure you have Stun ready at all times. Stun every Tier IV nuke, Tier III -aga and Sleepga/Sleep. Don't stun Poisonga as it will keep you awake if you miss stunning a Sleep.
  • Keep your TP up for Flat Blade. When I was sure I could use another WS safely I used Seraph Blade for 350-400 DMG each time at 100-150TP.
  • Eventually Dirtyhanded will use Manafont. At this point I used Chainspell + Stun because he will cast one spell after the other until Manafont ends.
  • I didn't remember to use Aspir/Drain because I don't sub /DRK very often. Not sure how resistant he is, but I'm sure this would've made the fight a bit smoother.
Overall, this is a challenging pull and a decent fight. The fight would've went a lot better but I was a little panicked after the risky pull and made a few mistakes. If you Stun every one of its nukes you will not have too much trouble. To be honest, because DRK is not as strong as my usually sub (Blue Mage), I had more trouble with the high melee damage (30-70 with food). If you are used to Stunning monsters (which I'm not, this was only my 5th time doing a Chainspell stun) and competent melee RDM, then this fight is very doable. One last note: I tried this RDM/BLU, but Head Butt is too weak. --Shizoku 18:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I just tryed to solo it as rdm/drk lost 15k exp... I'd LOVE to see a video of you doing this I honestly don't see how this is possible...Chocobo-meow 17:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I wish I had a video of it too. Although it was pretty tough to pull this NM, perhaps I'll film a demonstration run now that I have Fraps.--Shizoku 02:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Killed solo by a 75 THF/NIN. Put on shadows/perfect dodge/flee and immediately pull an orc from the room, flee to the entrance to Monastic Cavern that you entered from. When you exit, all the normal orcs will despawn while the NM will move back more slowly, find a time good to pull the NM and fight at the zone. Save all TP for stunning -aga spells.
    • Evasion gear is highly recommended, potions or a healing NPC are very helpful for this fight (but not necessary).
  • Killed duo by a RDM/DRK and THF/NIN or NIN. The RDM should stay engaged on the mob with a sword, use Stun for any -aga spells that are cast, and save TP for Flat Blade as back-up stun while waiting on Stun recast timer. At the same time, the other three Orcs that are in the room should be kept asleep, though Stoneskin and Phalanx should defray almost all damage from them for quite some time.
  • This NM can also be killed duo by a level 75 SAM/DRG and a level 75 WHM/BLM. The SAM should wait on the elevator, while the WHM buffs up with Stoneskin and Blink and uses Elemental Seal Sleepga on one of the regular orcs in the house. This will cause the NM to link, at which point the WHM should run to the elevator, let the SAM lower it, and run to the zone. Once the WHM zones into Monastic Cavern, the sleeping orcs in the house and the links on the way to the zone will despawn, leaving only the NM. The SAM should then attack the NM and keep it at the zone, while the WHM comes back into Davoi to cure and use Barspells.
    When attempting this strategy, the following points should be kept in mind:
  1. It is possible to cast Sleepga through both sets of doors if the first set of doors is opened before beginning the spell; remain standing outside the house to avoid the doors closing and inhibiting escape while aggroed.
  2. Tachi: Gekko will work to interrupt any of the NM's spells.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shizoku (talk • contribs).

  • Successfully soloed by MNK/DNC with the assistance of Soothing Healer NPC fellow lvl65 in a crazy, but very lucky attempt... right at NM's spawn location, inside the house!! First I cleared all the Orcs around the house, assisted with NPC fellow and saving some TP when killing the last one. Then I rested until my NPC had full mp, opened the first door, used Dodge and Focus, opened the second door and engaged the NM right away ; the rest was Maat-like strategy : Drain Samba II + WS at start, Hundred Fists, WS every 100 TP, excepted for a few Curing Waltz II. Of course in the meanwhile I was getting beaten hard by NM's nukes and the 3 regular orcs physical attacks, but my NPC fellow just kept on spamming Cure V on me ; Chakra and the few Curing Waltz II were also crucial for survival. When Hundred Fists wore off, the NM had like 10% HP left, my NPC had used all mp, my HP were in red, but I still managed to luckily gain 100TP for the final blow. When the NM was defeated, I had only 60 HP left and was killed 2 seconds later by the regular orcs ; of course I had to Home Point, but the mission item was in my pocket :-)
  • Of course I really don't recommend this strategy if you want a safe fight ; don't even try it if your MNK is not almost fully merited and well-geared (Kirin's Osode and Byakko's Haidate), and if your NPC fellow's level is not high enough to have a sufficient mp pool; successful or not you WILL die and will have no other choice than Home Point. And again, I repeat I was very, very lucky : with 60 HP left at NM's death, replace one of the numerous evaded physical attacks by a landed hit, or some NM's nuke by a higher tier one, and I would have failed. Still, it was one of my most exciting moments in the game, so if just like me you like personal solo challenges, you might give it a try ;-)
  • Duoed by BLU75/NIN37 and RDM75/BLM75 by buffing up by the zone, going up to the house, running in without aggroing the orcs guarding the door, immediately Head Butting Gochakzuk to interrupt his first (most likely -ga) spell, and casting Sleepga on the other orcs. Alternated every hit with Head Butt to prevent any spells from getting through- the NM only got to use two Battle Dances, never got Manafont off. After the fight, we used Escape so we wouldn't have to put up with the three adds left in the room. Much easier (and likely safer) than trying to drag the NM down to the zoneline.
  • Trioed with a 75 PLD/WHM (Socrates), 75 DRK/SAM (me), 75 SMN/WHM (Korpg). Dark knight and paladin stored TP before the fight. Summoner carby pulled and ran the links to the zone while the paladin flashed Dirtyhanded Gochakzuk. Fight lasted all of 12 seconds with paladin using Swift Blade and then the dark knight closing a darkness skillchain with Cross Reaper, dealing 1k damage with the ws and another 1k with the skillchain. The summoner used Predator Claws for 1.5k damage, the rest of the hp was taken down with melee. The nm's hp went from about 93% to 7% in 2 seconds from the BP and CR/SC. It was too easy. YuberBlacknight 07:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Duoed very easily by two BLM75/RDM37. We stayed invisible until the elevator, and then killed mobs on the way to the house. Rested to full, then stood up and buffed: Shell II, Stoneskin, Blink, and Phalanx. When we were ready, the "aggroer" ran in and casted Stun on the NM while the other BLM used Elemental Seal + Sleepga II. The PLD mob inside initially resisted, but was slept easily with Sleep II shortly thereafter. Both BLMs casted Burst II, Thunder IV, and Blizzard IV which easily killed the NM. Burst II from a fully merited Hume BLM will do about 13% of the NM's health. The fight was over in seconds. Aksannyi 07:42, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Note: Duoable as a 75 Sch & 65 or higher Nin. Advisable for Sch to have some form of movement speed enhancing gear (i.e. Desert Boots +1). Nin should have AF Boots for this. Wait for night fall. Allow the Nin build TP to 100 by clearing the lower area around the elevator. Head up and kill the 1st 2 mobs before NM. Sch should buff with Stoneskin, Reraise and any others desired. Nin waits at the elevator and Sch pulls NM with Dia or Poison and runs back to the elevator. Nin hits lever as Sch approaches (Sch may take a few hits at this point). Once down Nin should Provoke NM and run off the broken bridge and begin making their way south down the creek. Now some of the Orcs that linked should be deaggroing because Orcs track by scent and the creek masks it. It is important to maintain aggro on the NM either with Ranged Attack, reapplying DoTs or Provoking. Once the NM is the only Orc in the creek, have Nin run in, Blade: Jin, then run out of range of any -Ga spells as they are being cast (Nin will more than likely get tagged by Poisonga). Sch must make sure that NM is DoT'ed at all times while Nin builds TP again. After 3 WS, NM should fall.
    • Moved comments left by other users on their fights to here. --Bekisa 23:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Duoed, 75BLU/NIN 67RDM/WHM. Ended up getting agroed by a bunch of orcs, kept em slept down with Yawn and sleep 1 and 2. Used the same strategy on the NM, slept his buddies, while killing the BLM. Took about a forty-five minutes, Including the agro session outside of the house. ~~Vel@ Asura
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