Talk:Experience Points
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Did raise II and raise III change with update?
Ought to incorporate some of the tables from somepage. --Valyana 09:08, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
I agree, I think this page needs to be split up and arranged as follows:
Page Name: Experience Points
This should just contain a definition and the abbreviations, and links to the next pages:
Page Name: Experience Points for Levelling (or something like that)
This should contain the 2 Level Tables, and that graph. I think both Level tables belong, just the more recent one should be put at the top. The older one should be put at the bottom. Each table should be in its own subsection, like Level Table (Post-April 21, 2005 Update) and Level Table (Prior to the April 21,2005 Update).
Page Name: How Experience Point Totals are Determined (or something like that)
This should contain the FFXI Somepage data, noting it comes from there and Somepage in turn got it from a JP website. It should contain the following sections:
EXP From Monsters Even Match or Tougher
(This should contain those 6 tables. One point though, I don't how the page's statement how the maximum base experience at LVX-Y relates to the chart. That should be cleared up before the info is moved here)
EXP From Monsters weaker than Even Match
(This should contain those tables on Somepage, but I think it needs to be reformatted slightly to be more similar to the previous section's tables)
I think the next few should be sub-sections of a section called Modifiers
EXP Chain Bonuses
Level Difference Modifier
BST Pet Modifier
(This should be explained very precisely so as to create absolutely no confusion whatsoever). It should also note that jug pets had this equation applied to the BST until the 12/12/05 patch.
Alliance Modifier
(can someone check their "1.80-1.84?" value? Looking at the equation, I bet the value scales up from 1.80 to 1.84 as the number of players in the alliance increases. People should try to experiment with having 7, 8, 9, 10..... 18 players in an alliance and calculate what the multipliers are for each)
EXP Bonuses
(Someone needs to get more precise value for the Hippogryphs, and I wonder, do any other monsters not listed here have these EXP Bonus modifiers?)
Sanction
(This should look at how Sanction effects EXP totals in the Near East zones)
Somebody who's really good at making tables in Wiki should do it. Oh yeah, and the Check page should have a title below each category (Easy Prey, Tough, etc) which has two columns, one for the player's level range and one for which monster levels check as that category (at that level range for the player).
--zoogelio-forgot-his-password 19:00, 21 July 2006 (EDT)
Move old exp table
I think it would be better to move the table comparing the current exp need to level with the 2005 version to another page. Probably most people aren't going to be interested in what was changed in an update from two years ago. I don't see an obvious place to move table to though, is there a repository for version difference details?--Zuke 15:51, 31 March 2007 (EDT)
EXP Cap ?
The page lists supposed caps based on LV for a single kill . I think anyone who has Solo's will agree they might need adjusting . Soloing as SMN and RDM 75 i have recieved upto 345 exp with out Bonuses , i.e. Rings and things , with the chart showing a cap of 300 @ LV75 --MIKUMARU 15:50, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Were you soloing in ToAU areas? Don't forget sanction's exp bonus --Noodles355 15:57, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
September 2008 update
The chart will need to be updated since EP and DC have been changed, also looks like least amount of exp is now 30lego 14:12, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- The EP for levels 16-20 are:30, 40, 50, 60, 65, 70, 75 and the -1 DC is 90. I'm not sure what the -2 DC is yet for that range, but I would guess 80 or 85. --Thervold 20:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
exp gained lvl's 61-65 for mlvl -12 to -6 is after 2008 sept. update is 60, 63, 66, 70, 73, 76, 80 (Shienar 12:50, 12 September 2008 (UTC))
I've got, for 1-5 by mob levels in decreasing order -1 ~ -7, 90, 80, 70, 65, 60, 55*, 50*. *Obtained from level 0 mobs outside the gates at levels 4 and 5. (Iriscal 1:10, 14 September 2008 )
I got 95 and 90 xp from the Tonberry's Elemental in Pso'Xja at level 50. Updated chart to match. - Redhobbit 04:27, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps adding an asterisk or something to signify which exp values have been adjusted to the new values would be a good idea? Hard to read which ones are obsolete now. - Katriina 21:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- After doing some updating today from findings while I was soloing on Dancer, I sort of agree with this. I got an 86 experience kill while targeting Lycopodiums in Rolanberry Fields (S) (28-31) on a level 31 Dancer. But I also got an 80. This would lead me to believe that the -3 value is 80, but it's currently at 70 and I'm entirely unsure how to find out if someone already adjusted that, short of going back through every update in September. --Linoth 03:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Added results for -1 and -2 while killing a few Lesser and Greater Gaylas in Behemoth's Dominion. I did get 85 exp for a pair of kills on Lesser Gaylas but I'm uncertain if they were -3 or -4 to me, as I was only soloing ~1000 exp. --Linoth 04:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)