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Talk:Geirskogul

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I got this from KI

My name is AoshiZ from Gilgamesh, I read forums but never really post. Kanti said i should post some info so i decided to come on and give you guys some info. Since I don't use any programs whatsoever i cannot really provide any screen shots, but i have done alot of analysis which coincides with my Data which will give you an idea of what geirskogul does for me.

The following is a chart of MAX and minimum damage I have been able to achieve with various levels of agility proven from over thousands of kills and data analysis (hand done no parser sorry). This Data coicides with my gear which I will also list below and works perfectly with the equations listed on:
vzx english equation compilation

or for more accurate information goto (in Japanese):
Studio Gobli

Geirskogul

AGI /Base Damage /MAX /Min /MAX With SATA Damage
66 /467 /1120 /747 /1401
67 /470 /1128 /752 /1410
68 /470 /1128 /752 /1410
69 /473 /1135 /756 /1419
70 /473 /1135 /756 /1419
71 /473 /1135 /756 /1419
72 /477 /1144 /763 /1431
73 /477 /1144 /763 /1431
74 /480 /1152 /768 /1440
75 /483 /1159 /772 /1449
76 /483 /1159 /772 /1449 'My normal set is here
77 /486 /1166 /777 /1458 'My Damage with Couerl Sub food eaten
78 /486 /1166 /777 /1458
79 /489 /1173 /782 /1467
80 /489 /1173 /782 /1467
81 /489 /1173 /782 /1467
82 /492 /1180 /787 /1476
83 /492 /1180 /787 /1476

This data follows the equation Base Damage = floor( (D + (aD) + fSTR(2) + WSC) x fTP)
Total Damage = Base Damage x pDIF
with the fTP slightly modified with the Light Gorget which has been proven to add 25/256 to the weaponskill modifier.
Also fSTR is maxed at 19 for Gungnir Weapon Rank. and pDIF is calculated at 3.0 for SATA.
Once again these numbers are listed because i have verified with real ingame results on Not worthwile enemies for maximum potential.

My Weaponskill Gear (Not my TP set)

Hecatomb Cap
Hecatomb Harness
Hecatomb Gloves + 1
Hecatomb Subligar
Hecatomb Leggings + 1
Breeze Ring
Sativa Ring
Assault Earring
Brutal Earing
Tiphia Sting
Light Gorget
Wyrm Belt
Amemit + 1 (Yes I have a foragers also but I wear this for personal reasons)

I eat Meat food generally Coeurl Sub but sometimes Red Curry for performance.
I have Full merits in Polearm and STR.
Hume with base STR with merits is 73 STR. (+40 from Gear)
I have 66 base AGI with (+10 from Gear)

Real World results in fighting IT:
I generally do 1200+ damage with SATA on IT not including double attacks. When I get an extra hit i can do 1400 on IT. With a Bard i can do the higher end damage which you see in the results above. On flying i SATA average 1500-1600 damage with double attacks going to 1900 on greater colibri. My record for most damage on a flying is a little over 2100 (included double).

A little about me:
Took me over 2 years to get my relic which i got around last august (2006). If you would like to have a discussion feel free to make a character on Gilgamesh and come talk to me. Don't ask me for a demonstration unless we are on good terms because I will not service every dragoon in the whole MMO for eyecandy on what it looks like or how the damage really looks like. I play on JP version so i might have spelled somet things wrong.

This data took me a long time to accumulate and is accurate and 100% verified. Take it as is. If you would like to refute the Data feel free with your own data accumulated from your own Gungnir.

Interesting Facts/Opinion and Comments:

  • Light Gorget adds about 50 damage to my max damage on Geirs with SATA
  • Every Agility adds about 4.5 damage to my max but should not necessarily replace STR which is more plentiful (STR affects fSTR ultimately increasing WS damage on High Level Mobs)
  • SATA Wheeling can be better sometimes on high defense mobs (example: Jailor of Love)
  • Penta Thrust can be better on gimpy mobs but generally SATA Geirs is better (Penta is my WS of choice on WAR sub)
  • pDIF is most important modifier and so attack should be balanced in with the most priority unless you have a Bard with double minuet.
  • Since Geirs is Light/Distortion and Light > Light makes double light. A dragoon can SC with himself using his Two hour to suck his Wyvern's TP for a Light skill chain. This must be done a certain way to prevent the wyvern from using its TP breath move/cure (example: engage and WS before attacking so the wyvern doesn't do the TP move then two hour)
  • Thf Sub only became my favorite sub after obtaining relic. (Relic makes this sub feasible i guess?)
  • Geirs gives dragoons a strong one hitter comparable to Spinning Slash.
  • The Shock Spikes do around 20 damage per hit which is equivalent to twice the strength of Shock Spikes a Red Mage does (seems to almost always stun not sure).
  • Geirs is not the one and only overall best WS as you can see from the above information. Therefore, don't expect it to be the all in one replacement or you'll be dissappointed.


Aoshi Z
Gilgamesh

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ukko (talkcontribs).