Talk:Joyeuse

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Why was the DA rate changed from 50% to 45%? Has there been a recent more detailed study proving this? If that's the case please post a link here. --Releena 01:53, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

Procs rate

Yes it's been tested and from a sample of 1000 swings it averaged 45% DA rate.

Additionally it was also tested with War subjob and and in this case after 1000 swings it averaged something near 50% DA rate, which proves the theory that DA trait only procs when DA from joyeuse doesn't (5% improvement instead of 10%)

As far as i know the idea that joyeuse procs rate is 50% was just estimated, so i'd rather stick with something that comes from a test.

Where have these tests been performed? --Releena 00:26, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

I don't think it's possible to figure out how DA from joyeuse and Warrior's job trait work together with just the DA% data. There can be only two outcomes, a single-attack or a double-attack. A DA will proc whenever a SA doesn't occur, and a SA will only occur when the Joyeuse and /WAR's trait don't proc, regardless of how they are implemented. --JKL 20:30, 6 September 2007 (CDT)

Is 45% even significantly different from 50% if power is only 1000? What's the p-score?---Iecerint 15:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)Iecerint

Discussion Thread

The original topic was made on an italian forum and that is why i haven't linked it here. However i have recently made even more tests and with those i think i'm ready for the "big audience". I have therefore created a topic on wiki's forum. you can see the results and explanations of my experiments there:

http://forums.ffxiclopedia.org/viewtopic.php?p=67796#67796

MIR the Great