Talk:Survival of the Wisest
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Strategies????
See text below for strategy for Scholars attempting this battle at 71+ (strategy for lvl 70 (those atttempting G5 for the first time) see prior page) . . Minikowalski of Odin
This fight can be hard if you are not prepared or really easy (if it's not light grimoire), remember... preparation can define battles... how well are you prepared? keep in mind that after finishing the grimoire (even if u cant do it on ur first nuke it's ok coz u'r blink from blink band can take a few hits for u so keep nuking until it's dead) gunther is a walk in the part if you have a blink band. He only casts single target spells that ur shadows can cancel with no problems and most of them have a huge casting time ie Fire III(giving u plenty time to recast it if needed), if ur HP is low cast drain and keep nuking putting ur shadows up as needed, if ur planning on long fights, bring vile-elixir and strong mp recovering stuff. Remember... if ur having a hard time without a blink band... get one... coz it can make a real difference and keep in mind, knowing how to manage ur strategems is very important... if u think ur going out of mp too fast, parsimony may be necessary instead of ebullience, if ur ok on mp... dont hesitate on using ONLY ebullience and leaving parsimony untouched
0/4 so far. First time I mananged to sleep the Grimoire and did OK. After that, it won't sleep and I die very fast. Tried doing Sandstorm + Klimaform + Ebullience + Stone IV on the book, it almost died, then Schultz healed it and I died again. Any strategies so far??? - Arngrim from Titan
Scholar LB5 as lv.66
well thus far I been trying to do this LB as lv.66, from what I used with INT+36 and dark day and double dark weather gunther and the crimson grimoire did both resist sleepga and sleep II while dark arts was active, my guess so far is if you can get one to sleep take out the other ASAP then kill the sleeping one, as lv.75 this should be only 3 tier IV spells to win but as 66 you have to deal with a bit more resistance. I will be trying it some more and post my discovery's. good luck to all.
Still no luck....
At this point I'm now 0/11 on this, and my SCH is a new character so I can't do G5 on another job! I'm lvl 70, with Elemental Magic, Dark Magic, and Enfeebling magic capped. A few times if I've done Manifestion + Sleep I, that put the book to sleep, but only for a few seconds. If I do a Sleep II directly on the book, it never sticks. Even with Voidstorm and Klimafrom on. So manifestation seems to be making sleeps stick a bit better, but since Manifestion doesn't work with Sleep II, that doesn't help too much. I bought a Blink Band and tried nuking the book. Almost killed it a few times, but Schutlz keeps healing it. Which means I usually die before I can completely finish it. Any ideas at all??? I can't afford Stoneskin Torque at this point, but may have to break down for it. Arngrim from Titan
Do you have to do this?
If you've already defeated Maat, as of the March Update, must you do this to attain level 75? Or can you go w/o doing this quest? --Noaru 00:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Answer for Above poster
No, when you done LB5 for any other job, you will not have to do it again, but will always be fun to do none the less.. note that you will lose exp once you broke the first LB5 from now on in LB5 BCNMs.
"You won't lose exp here"
Whoever added this false tidbit should go die in a fire.
I'm out almost 10k EXP from RR1 in the BCNM thinking I wouldn't lose EXP in there.--Evilpaul 22:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- I just beat it 1/4, and I didn't lose any xp from the previous losses. You lose xp if you have done G5 on another job, but not otherwise. - Tomtomz
3/8 auto-loss?
I followed the strategy on the main page quite closely and won against a dark element based Grimoire. This leads to the assumption that the "auto-loss rate" of this G5 is just about 1/8: when the Grimoire is earth element based. I don't have any experiences on a light element based Grimoire, but I'd assume it is the same as a dark element based one.
- NQ Elemental Staff
- Lizard Strap +1
- Phantom Tathlum
- Scholar's Mortarboard
- Elemental Torque
- Morion Earring
- Moldavite Earring
- Scholar's Gown
- Seer's Mitts +1
- Zircon Ring
- Zircon Ring
- Black Cape +1
- Penitent's Rope
- Seer's Slacks +1
- Custom M Boots
- NQ Elemental Staff
This is my gear for reference. Elemental Magic is capped at 201 and I had a Cream Puff in my belly. --SKudo 13:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Video
I added this in case anyone wanted a video reference. I didn't do this fight, my buddy Kirbys did. --DP 06:55, 29 December 2008 (JST)
Just so people don't get some wrong impression: It is a fight of a SCH75 against Prof. Schultz. While fun to watch, it is difficult to extract relevant aspects for a L70 cap fight. The part against the Crimson Grimoire is well done, with quite some smooth Dark Arts, Addendum: Black, Alacrity, Ebullience in the beginning. But that's about everything someone doing it "for real" can get, for everything else would probably not work out on a SCH70. Nuking Prof. Schultz without Tabula Rasa might end up close at 70. But thank you for the video, anyway. :-) SKudo 01:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I did forget to mention that. It wasn't supposed to be "this is how you do it," but a "hey, if you failed, try this." Kirbys told me the reason he made and posted it was there were very few videos on the fight. So, since he did the grunt work, I figured I would do what YouTube videos should do. Be viewed by everyone. I hope this helps anyone with the fight, and I wish you luck. I am sure Kirbys will appreciate your comment, SKudo. --DP 11:32, 29 December 2008 (JST)
1/2 as SCH 75
Beat this in 1:18 as SCH 75. He completely wiped the floor with me the first time as after I'd cast Thunder IV on the book (which took out most of its HP), both it and Schultz cast Cure IV to completely heal the book. The Grimoire meleed me to death no matter where I ran (~189 damage per hit, hits pretty fast), and Schultz took me out with a Drain. Whole fight lasted about 20-25 seconds.
Second time around, Thunder IV took out most of the book's life and Schultz cast Stone IV on it to heal it back to about 40-50%. The Book cast Geohelix on me. I managed to pull off an Alacrity -> Blizzard III which took out the book. Then I used a Vile Elixir, used Tabula Rasa, Dispelled him (turns out I didn't need to as he only had Regen), then he cast Aspir. I Alacrity -> Ebullience -> Thunder IV him to take him down to about 70%-ish, he cast Fire III on me, did Ebullience -> Thunder IV (recast wasn't done), then as I cast Blizzard IV he Aspired me again. Blizzard IV made him give up.
This fight is about pure luck (he could've nuked me easily, I had 82 HP left at the end) so don't get discouraged if he makes you kiss floor on the first few tries.
A Blink Band is essential for this fight (I didn't have one since there were none on AH) and can mean the difference between a win and a loss.
I had a few pieces of better than average gear (HQ thunder and ice staves, Elemental Torque, Argute Bracers) but otherwise just had AF and NQ gear going. Used a Cream Puff for food.
Not sure if this will help anyone, but I'm hoping my experience will be useful. Darian Cerris 17:44, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
