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Some points that may need editing

There are a two points in the walkthrough of this article that a San d'Orian may want to edit. I've only done Windurstian missions thus far, so I don't know if there are any peculiarities that San d'Orians have to go through..

The first point is the parenthetical phrase in the fourth bullet. Would there really be any reason to zone again before being able to officially receive the mission? You already have to zone out of Chateau d'Oraguille to reach any gate guard, correct? I find it hard to believe that you would need to leave the chateau, talk to a gate guard, zone, and talk to a gate guard again.

The second point is in the last bullet. Do you really need to speak to specifically Endracion to finish your mission? Or can you finish the mission by speaking to any of the gate guards?

--Ivrai 05:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I would reccommend after the intial contact to pull back out of the circle, this way if you die you may RR, rest and resume. Rieul 22:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

It is recommended that you have a SCH or BLM with Sleepga II, a Bard, or a BLU.

The BLM or SCH should run in and Elemental Seal/Focalization + Sleepga II the orcs. The order of the BCNM should be Warmachine, Warmachine, PLD, DRG, wyvern, RNG. (Confirmed you do not have to kill the wyvern to win).

Testimonials

  • Trio by a 75 THF/NIN 75 BST/WHM 75 RDM/BLM, done without difficulty, RDM slept the Orcs, while BST using CC and THF engage the machines one by one, but the RNG Orc almost one shot RDM, so its best to take RNG after done with the machines.
  • Easily Duoed Sam/War Rdm/Blm, Sleepga Start, Warmachine > Warmachine > PLD > DRG > PET > RNG, no threat.
  • Easily Duoed by SAM/DNC BRD/RDM. BRD Horde Lullaby off the start and kept songs up on the SAM. SAM was easily able to solo a mob if he did not have any links. If the BRD needs space for sleeps, run back towards the entrance as the initial Horde Lullaby should have every mob with hate on him. Never a problem
  • RDM/BLM and THF/NIN easy fight no problems
  • RDM/BLM and BRD/WHM are excellent in this fight with a Ninja tank, can cover sleeping and healing easily.
  • This fight can be duoed by a RDM/NIN and BST/NIN or NIN/WAR or PUP/WAR or /NIN.
  • This fight can be duoed by a PLD/DNC and a BLM/WHM.
  • This fight can be duoed by a PLD/WAR and a WHM/SCH without too much difficulty
  • This fight can be duoed by a PLD/RDM and a WHM/SMN with difficulty and skill.
  • PLD/NIN and NIN/DNC can also duo this fight with a little struggle.
  • Very easy 75RDM/BLU solo, the only real danger is running out of time (Took me 3 attempts to complete it within the time limit).
  • Solo 75RDM/BLU, keeping most monsters slept, using joyeuse, tav taco and reasonable melee gear cleared in 16 mins.
  • Solo 75RDM/WAR using same strat as RDM/BLU.
  • Easily Duoable with a mithra DRG/BLU (198 mp) and mithra DRG/WHM (252 mp) with standard AF drachen armets, just had the DRG/BLU tank the entire fight with cocoon and protectra II, DRG/BLU used couerl sub, hundred fists was cake, spammed blue magic headbutt & footkick. DRG/WHM spammed dia. Used Angon volley and penta thrusts for finale. Finished fight with 35 mp and 148 mp.
  • Soloable by 75BLM with some difficulty.
  • Soloable by 75PLD/RDM with no problems.
  • Soloable by 75RDM/NIN with a bit of difficulty and skill.
  • Soloable by 75SMN/WHM with a lot of difficulty and skill.
  • Trioable by a 75BLM/WHM, 75RDM/BLU, 75THF/NIN with ease.
  • Duoed by 75RDM/BLM and 75SAM/NIN little difficulty, RDM used Taco and SAM Sushi XxPhazexX 17:42, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Confirmed soloable by PLD/RDM. Took 3 yagudo drinks a persikos au lait and reraise in with me, but none were needed. Cleared with 9 minutes remaining. __AERYCK__ ~Talk Contrib~ 05:30, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
  • Soloable by 75BLU/NIN with a little skill. Ran in, actinic burst > yawn as both war machines resisted soporific, also be sure to get the ranger who likes to stand out of the way. Disseverment > hysteric barrage took down a warmachine, and then just stand around for a few seconds while disseverment recast is up and repeat on the next warmachine. Reblink, wait for mobs to wake and then actinic burst > soporific and rest. Repeat this as many times as needed, even pld stayed slept for the full length of time. I left pld to last so I could use him for MP drainkiss. Basically just continually sleep and rest until you're fit to burn down another orc, was over in 15 minutes. --Blazza 18:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
  • San d'Oria mission 7-2 "Secret Weapons" Is duoable by DRG75/BLU37(for Cocoon, and healing wyvern support) and WHM74/BLM37(for sleep). The DRG had used Yagudo drinks and Tavzanian tacos, the WHM didn't have any food. What we did was: First the WHM would elemental seal + Sleepga the middle orc to sleep the mobs, then run way back near the Burning circle while the drg takes one of the warmachines. When the mobs awoke, I was at the burning circle already and so the mobs chased after me. The second warmachine(the one that wasn't claimed) ran after me, and lost hate and went back to the burning circle, but the DRG had already killed the first warmachine, so the second one coming back was no problem. Now, at first there were only 2 orcs on their way to me and they were too far apart to both be hit by sleepga. And then the third orc came near me. What I did was juggle sleep them. If one awoke , I would sleep, and so on and so on while the DRG killed the mobs, in the order or Warmachine > Warmachine > RNG > PLD > DRG, and have the WHM sleep the wyvern. Once the DRG is down the BCNM is over. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jagtarro (talk • contribs).
  • SMN Solo: I decided to try and solo this on smn, it took me a few attempts to get down the strat i would use to win, but here it is. When you get into the bcnm, buff up with reraise and stoneskin, run to the edge of the bcnm, and set shiva on the middle one(pld), use sleepga as soon as shiva hits, and release, then summon garuda, she should go for one of the warmachines as they resisted sleep(all but once when it landed on one of them), hit retreat and she will go for the other one, kill off the 2 warmachines before the rest of them wake, then leave the bc area and die. reraise as soon as they are out of agro range. rest till you unweak and get about 800~900 mp. go back to the bc, summon shiva and sleepga again, the pld resisted the 2nd sleepga most of the time, but the time it didnt was the time I won, if the pld resists, set garuda onto it, if it doesnt, set garuda onto the drg. kill the dragoon(ignore the wyvern, it will depop) then die to the other 2 orcs(if the pld reists, then kill that instead). after this, go back and sleepga again, and kill either the pld or drg(whichever is alive). if the rng wakes up while your killing, keep stoneskin on yourself and blink, and cure when needed, once the pld(or drg) is dead, kill the rng(may need ele siphon if low on mp). The attempt that i won was on windsday, so i had 1mp/tick garuda with the -2perp headpeice and af2 body, I took yag drinks, but used them all on previous attempts, so no meds are needed to win this bcnm, however if its not windsday, or you dont have af2 body, I would recomend yags. Astral Flow was not needed. I won the BCNM in 24mins 43seconds. Haunted 12:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
  • PLD/DNC: This is soloable by a (very lucky) PLD/DNC. I totally abused Hercules' Ring, but it is possible. The first things I did were Reprisal and Sentinel. After Reprisal wore I used Invincible. Shortly there after I spammed Cure III. I had a storage of TP then to spam Curing Waltz II, dropping down to 100TP and then used Vorpal Blade which finished the first Warmachine. Next I used Fealty and Rampart. After that I repeated the cycle of spamming Cures in between waltzes. I would try to get as close back down to 100% TP before using a weaponskill. Also, if you have below 500 HP; I would strongly suggest you use Waltzes in favor of Cures, as they cannot be interrupted. Shield Mastery and Joyeuse are key ingredients. In the end the RNG hit me for a 401 damage EES while is was at around 80% HP. (I only had about 500 HP at the time)
  • Trio'd by 75 RNG/NIN, THF/NIN, and DNC/NIN. We focused on the War Machines, since they have low HP...took them out without much trouble, and switched to the PLD. Took him out without much fuss, then switched to the DRG. Once Dragoon was down, RNG one shotted the Wyvern (lol) and then we all tackled the RNG. DNC died to an Eagle Eye Shot due to being a little low on HP, but as long as your party beats everything, you will get credit for the completion. All in all, a joke except for the freak Eagle Eye shot, very easy fight. - Effedup 02:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
  • 75 RDM/PLD solod with care, with tav tacos and decent gear (Scorpion Harness, Duelist's Chapeau, Jelly Ring, Joyeuse, Genbu's Shield), beware of Eagle Eye Shot if this goes off while others are awake it could mean doom.
  • 75 RDM/PLD soloed it easily with average gear, with compulsure making a huge difference. All sleep was unresisted even when casting with melee gear. War marchine does pretty poor melee damage, so leave them unslept while you cycle through Sleep and Sleep II on DRG, PLD and RNG. Kill order is War Machine x2, Dragoon, PLD and RNG. Save Sentinel for when things go wrong. Fight down the ramp to give yourself more time when the mobs wake up. Should be able to kill off both war machine and Dragoon before convert. Keep stoneskin up and HP high when killing RNG. Cleared in 21 minutes. 29 Jan 2010
  • 75SAM/DNC and 75RDM/BLM duoed somewhat easily. SAM started with a warmachine and RDM was KO'd immediately after her 2nd Sleepga. RDM re-raised and was ok the rest of the fight. Both warmachines went down, then PLD. PLD used Invincible and Cure IVs, he took the longest. Then Dragoon went down, followed by his wyvern. Ranger was extremely easy with Meikyo Shisui. RDM had to re-sleep them several times and heal MP in between sleep and cures. SAM used Desperate Flourish to aid RDM. --Soulinafishbowl 07:51, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  • 75SAM/37DNC SOLO I went in wearing hagun and parry/evasion gear (boxer's mantle, askar body/gloves, myn haidate+1 etc), used reraise and meditate, and then used opo necklace/sleep pots to 200% tp, then waited for meditate to recharge. targeting the right most war machine I engaged popped seigan/third eye and ran in, using sekkanoki, I made a darkness chain to kill the first warmachine. I then used meikyo shisui and killed the second warmachine with another darkness chain and fired off meditate again. Now there were just the three orcs left, I ran to safe spot and used tachi: gekko on the paladin, at which point he fired off invincible. I had been focusing on taking the two machines out so my health was pretty low, I switched to soboro and targeted the dragoon but my health was too low and I died. I reraised and rested to full after raise sickness wore. I was able to take out the paladin and I got the Dragoon to 43% hp when my internet died... when I logged back in my time had run out and I was kicked out of the fight with 173 hp. I intend to try again after my two hour recharges, I'll post an update if I do. --Ferth 14:40, March 08, 2010 --edit Second try was successful.

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